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AI and Generative AI are transforming cybersecurity by enhancing threat detection and response. These technologies offer unmatched accuracy and efficiency, making them crucial for protecting sensitive data. As cyber threats evolve, integrating AI into security strategies is essential.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Corence Klop, CISO at the Rabobank, about the expanding role of AI and Generative AI in cybersecurity, and how to begin integrating these technologies into your organization.

TLDR:

• 04:45 Rob is confused about wrong AI information for a hotel booking
• 08:20 Conversation with Corence
• 33:40 How can you identify the state of flow for your end-user in agile practices?
• 40:50 Going to the swimming pool and disco with your daughter

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The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In a new five-part mini-series, Reimagining Telecoms, we will explore these challenges through five distinct lenses: Growth, Networks, Simplification, Data & AI, and Regulation, uncovering lessons and insights relevant to telecom organizations and beyond.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Osman Peermamode, Director, Data & Analytics at Vodafone Group about data and how can it act as a differentiator and does regulation both help or hinder that progress?

TLDR:

• 01:50 Update on Reimagining Telecoms mini-series
• 03:30  Main conversation with Osman Peermamode
• 34:00 AI in other industries and owns the intelligence? 
• 43:55 May dashboard rest in peace

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In the complex technology landscape, getting the people right is crucial for success. When the right team is in place, the technology will naturally follow, leading to impactful outcomes. Building a strong team ensures that the organization can navigate challenges and leverage technological advancements effectively.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Amy Williams, Managing Director, Cloud Services Product Lead at Barclays about the importance of good leadership and why is it important in today鈥檚 Cloud landscape.

TLDR:

• 04:43 Rob is confused about train information at stations
• 08:30 Conversation with Amy Williams
• 43:32 Polarity Management and The Leadership Perspective Shift
• 51:15 Running the 10K faster and continuing with great work within the team

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We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

On the conference’s final day, Dave, Esmee, and Rob will deep dive into the near future, concluding the event with discussions on a moon landing and global (space) connectivity between partners and vendors.

• Oliver Buschmann, VP, Head of Strategy at Ericsson
• Round table discussion with Heather Tulk, President Commercial and Public Sector from Telus, Thierry Klein President, Bell Labs Solutions Research, and Ashish Surti Chief Digital & Information Officer at Colt Technology Services

TLDR:

• 00:33 Evaluation of day 2 and expectations of day 3 – it’s all about collaboration
• 08:47 Conversation with Oliver Buschmann about the future and strategy of Telcom’s
• 37:56 C-level round table discussion about grow beyond connectivity, data and AI and the importance of cybersecurity vs new trends
• 1:22:50 Overall MWC reflections by the team including the Tapas and Sapas framework庐

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We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

On the second day of the conference, Dave, Esmee, and Rob had very exciting conversations about AI trends with:

• Chris Penrose, Global VP for Business Development for Telcos at NVIDIA
• Kaaren Hilsen, Head of AI Factory at Telenor

TLDR:

• 00:37: Evaluation of day 1 and expectations of day 2 – it’s all about AI and the future
• 6:03: Conversation with Chris Penrose about NVIDIA partnerships and trends
• 42:25: Conversation with Kaaren Hilsen about setting up the AI factory
• 1:11:20 Reflections on day 2 by the team

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We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave, Esmee and Rob set out the main themes of the Conference and have an exciting conversation with:

• Ahmad Latif Ali, Associate VP EMEA Telecommunicationa at 乌鸦传媒, Analyst at IDC
• Tobias Larsson, B2B Head of Telia

TLDR:

• 00:35 Welcome back at MWC in Barcelona!
• 08:35 Conversation with Ahmad Latif Ali about the 5 trends
• 49:00 Coversation with Tobias Larssson
• 1:10:12 Conclusion Day 1

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Sovereign AI is to become a cornerstone of national strategies, enabling countries to develop their own AI infrastructure and capabilities, thereby enhancing strategic resilience and fostering innovation, it will also play a crucial role in sectors such as healthcare and finance, driving advancements and improving security in an increasingly interconnected world.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Chris Stokel-Walker, Journalist, author and communicator specializing in tech, AI, and digital culture (including YouTube and TikTok) about the notion of sovereign AI and how that might develop as part of the AI world going forward.

TLDR:

• 04:50 Rob is confused about Net Neutrality
• 08:40 Cloud conversation with Chris Stokel-Walker
• 45:42 Superintelligence and how the public and policymakers understand and react to technology 
• 54:50 Going to an art exhibition opening and e-textiles 

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Every organization is built on people, structures, and culture. But culture isn鈥檛 static鈥攊t evolves with every interaction, ambition, and shift in circumstance. As IT drives business transformation, new technologies reshape how people connect and collaborate. In this ever-changing landscape, a strong, adaptive culture is the key to lasting success.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Jitske Kramer, Corporate Anthropologist about what is a culture, where does it come from, what does change mean and what we go through when transformation happens to people.

TLDR:

• 02:00 Rob is confused about AI models and DeepSeek
• 09:42 Cloud conversation with Jitske Kramer
• 48:15 Are we creating a digital environment where 鈥榝ree will鈥� gradually fades away?
• 56:30 Finally we found a great restaurant and Patterns of Life documentary

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The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In a new five-part mini-series, Reimagining Telecoms, we will explore these challenges through five distinct lenses: Growth, Networks, Simplification, Data & AI, and Regulation, uncovering lessons and insights relevant to telecom organizations and beyond.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Mallikarjuna Rao, Chief Technology & Enterprise Business Office at Telefonica about the backbone of the industry鈥攖he network鈥攁nd its transformation. What challenges lie ahead and what does the future hold?

‘Reimagining Telecoms‘ Episodes 4 and 5 will be available in the week of February 24.

TLDR:

• 02:31 Update on Reimagining Telecoms mini-series
• 05:00 Main conversation with Mallik Rao
• 39:04 Esmee sets up her own mesh network at home
• 45:39 New job and running the business

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Digital transformation isn鈥檛 just about technology鈥攊t鈥檚 about people. Culture shapes how teams adapt, collaborate, and drive change, but it also determines whether transformation efforts truly take root. Mindset, leadership, and shared values are the real catalysts for lasting success.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Alex Alves Global IT director Business Architecture at Unilever, about the hidden role of culture in driving transformation success.

 TLDR:

•  02:00 Rob is confused about Techno Platform Feudalism
•  06:40 Cloud conversation with Alex Alves
•  48:35 Research about raising AI as a child  
•  58:10 Starting an applied research PhD (UCL, the AI Lead department in Europe with two Nobel Prizes) and that this is an example of “intrapreneurship” in Unilever. Science as an Innovation lever. 

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[AAA] In ‘Access All Areas’ shows we go behind the scenes with the crew and their friends as they dive into complex challenges that organizations face鈥攕ometimes getting a little messy along the way.

This week, we address the 鈥榖ig rocks鈥� that can obstruct or delay successful outcomes in organizational transformations. Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Jez Back, Cloud Leader, and Chris Dudgeon, VP Commercial Finance, to discuss these challenges鈥攆ocusing on why cloud transformation programs sometimes fail to deliver their value and the economic realities surrounding them.

TLDR:

• 01:09 Access All Areas
• 03:29 The financial boulders that can block your path for success
• 05:52 Conversation with Jez and Chris
• 29:30 Cloud operational and the next steps
• 50:25 End of dry January and diner with Rob

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The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In a new five-part mini-series, Reimagining Telecoms, we will explore these challenges through five distinct lenses: Growth, Networks, Simplification, Data & AI, and Regulation, uncovering lessons and insights relevant to telecom organizations and beyond.

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Ashish Surti, EVP and Chief Digital & Information Officer at Colt Technology Services, about whether regulations can provide a strategic advantage in cybersecurity and sustainability.

‘Reimagining Telecoms‘ Episodes 3 – 5 will be available in the coming 2 weeks.

TLDR:

• 00:58 Update on ‘Reimaging Telecoms’ mini-series
• 05:38 Main conversation with Ashish Surti
• 31:40 Is Europe lagging behind in Cybersecurity?
• 42:25 Creating car models and investing in technology stack

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Organizational 鈥榩urpose鈥� can set out a North Star that can create directional alignment, which is especially important in organizations with deep empowerment.  But are purpose statements merely platitudes on a flip chart, or should the focus shift to genuine stories, meaningful patterns, and tangible actions? 

Returning from their festive slumber, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Dave Snowden, Founder and Chief Scientific Officer, The Cynefin Centre about purpose, why it may not help, what the alternatives might be and how to have a listening for the 鈥榤icro-narratives鈥� in your organization.

TLDR:

• 00:50 Back from the Christmas break!
• 05:42 Exploring organizational purpose with Dave Snowden
• 1:00:20 Discovering personal purpose through Ikigai
• 1:07:55 Celebrating a 21st anniversary and the Children of the World Project

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The last couple of years we have seen an increasing cadence of tech innovation, but scaled adoption held back by economic headwinds and incomplete technology suites – at the end of the year, it seems like a good time to reflect and cast forward a bit鈥�

In this weeks festive episode of the show, Dave, Esmee and Rob along with friend of the show, Gene Kim, author of the Phoenix Project and Wiring the Winning Organization, have a relaxed mull over the trends in AI and Cloud for 2025, what they are excited about for the coming year, sunny Christmas time and cooking the perfect turkey.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a very Happy and Healthy New Year to all our guests and listeners! Thank you for sharing your time with us this year鈥攚e look forward to seeing you at the end of January!

TLDR:

• 00:53 Cruising and why don’t people use meat probes?
• 11:00 Cloud conversation with Gene Kim
• 1:15:08 Excited about 2025!

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There is huge potential for the leverage of data (and AI) to provide the most modern Citizen digital experiences, but that has to be balanced with managing deep legacy challenges and, of course, security risk.

In a special episode this week, Dave and Rob talk to Craig Suckling, UK Government Chief Data Officer about modern public services, the challenges and opportunities in unleashing data in a safe and secure way, how AI fits into all of this and how Governments can lead the way in secure and ethical AI implementation.

TLDR:

• 01:56 The Chief Software Officer?!
• 05:40 Cloud conversation with Craig Suckling
• 57:55 Christmas with the kids and Lego!

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Live from the Expo floor in Las Vegas, we’re bringing you a special limited series of episodes on AWS re:Invent 2025. Join us as we check in with AWS and take an industry temperature check.  Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip from the Strip.

On day three of the conference Dave and Rob talk to:

• Max Peterson, VP Sovereign Cloud about Innovation in Sovereign Cloud
• Erik Farr, MD Solution Architecture about Cloud Maturity

also Rob Easton from AWS, drops in to help us round up the show – what were our big takeaways and which Casino Bar triumphed in Rob鈥檚 rigorous exploration?!

TLDR:

• 00:30 Main announcements at AWS re:Invent 2024 by the team
• 07:25 Sovereign Cloud with Max Peterson
• 32:19 Cloud Maturity with Erik Farr
• 54:23 Final conclusion and goodbye to Las Vegas and AWS re:Invent 2024

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Live from the Yardbird in Las Vegas, we’re bringing you a special limited series of episodes from AWS re:Invent 2025. Join us as we check in with AWS and take an industry temperature check.  Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip from the Strip.

On the second packed day of the conference Dave and Rob talk about vertical adoption of Cloud, and how it is being adopted to drive industry innovation, with:

• Ozgur Tohumcu, GM Automotive & Manufacturing about Innovation in the Automotive Industry
• Rachel Skaff, MD North America Partner & Channel Sales all Industries, about Transforming the Industries

plus Databricks drop by to talk about Data Swamps in Public Sector!

TLDR:

• 01:11 Setting the scene for Day 2 by the team
• 08:48 Transforming the Industries with Rachel Skaff
• 38:24  Innovation in the Automotive Industry with Ozgur Tohumcu
• 1:03:56 Data Swamps with Databricks
• 1:17:40 Reflections on Day 2 by the team

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Live from the Yardbird in Las Vegas, we’re bringing you a special limited series of episodes on AWS re:Invent 2025. Join us as we check in with AWS and take an industry temperature check.  Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip from the Strip.

In a packed show on day one of the conference, Dave and Rob first chat about expectations for re:Invent this year and the main Keynote announcements.

Then they talk to:

• Rahul Sareen, Global Head Cross Industry about state of sustainable tech
• Melissa Dougherty, MD Global Partner Sales, Financial Services about the future of FS
• also, Matt Gillard, ‘Cloud Dialogues’ and Paul Mukherjee and Liam Walsh, UK Gov Defra, drop in to say hello.

TLDR:

• 00:38 Setting the scene and emerging themes AWS re:Invent 2024 by the team and Matt Gillard
• 14:38 State of sustainable tech with Rahul Sareen
• 33:35 The future of FS with Melissa Dougherty
• 1:01:44 Drop In with Liam Walsh and Paul Mukherjee

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Agentic intelligence will enable unprecedented levels of automation, it is a next step on from what has been possible for a number of years.  Is it now possible to automate 80% of IT tasks?

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Johan Sporre Lennberg, Vice President Cloud Service at Ericsson about how Hyper Automation is possible, to what extent and the best way to go after it in IT.

TLDR:

• 01:35 Confusion about AI Ethos
• 06:28 Cloud Conversation with Johan Sporre
• 46:00 Showcasing value
• 54:40 Riding in the season’s first snowfall!

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Live from the heart of Microsoft Ignite 2024 in Chicago, right from the Expo floor, we’re bringing you a special limited series of episodes.

Join us as we make connections between Microsoft, Azure AI and Data, Security, Industry, Development Community and customer experience. Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip.

 On day three of the conference Dave and Rob talk to:

• Kathleen Mitford, CVP Global Industry Marketing about Industry AI Transformation.
• Irina Nechaeva, GM Identity & Access about the State of the Nation on IaM management.
• Marco Casalaina, VP Azure AI about Democratization of AI

TLDR:

• 00:40 The four main themes from Microsoft Ignite’24
• 09:59 Industry meets AI Transformation with Kathleen Mitford
• 40:47 IaM management meets AI with Irina Nechaeva
• 1:07:47 The future meets AI with Marco Casalaina
• 1:35:08 Final conclusion and goodbye to Chicago and Microsoft Ignite’24

Live from the heart of Microsoft Ignite 2024 in Chicago, we’re bringing you three daily episodes. Join us as we make connections between Microsoft, Azure AI and Data, Security, Industry, Development Community and customer experience. Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip.

 On day two of the conference Dave and Rob talk to:

• Rudra Mitra, CVP Purview about Data Security in the Age of AI
• Sarah Bird, CPO for Responsible AI and Yina Arenas, VP, AI Foundry about Embedding Ethics in AI Innovation & the newly announced Foundry
• Scott Hanselman, VP Developer Community about Empowering Developers with AI

TLDR:

• 00:32 Bar in the Clouds and observation from Microsoft Ignite
• 08:44 Data Security meets AI with Rudra Mitra
• 33:30 Ethics and Foundry meets AI with Dr. Sarah Bird and Yina Arenas
• 1:04:28 Developers meets AI with Scott Hanselman
• 1:34:13 Conclusion of Day 2 and what will Day 3 bring?

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Live from the heart of Microsoft Ignite 2024 in Chicago, we’re bringing you three daily episodes. Join us as we make connections between Microsoft, Azure AI and Data, Security, Industry, Development Community and customer experience. Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

On day one of the conference Dave and Rob first chat with friend of the show Steve Webb about the main Keynote announcements by Satya Nadella, Ignite itself and the critical topic of Chicago pizza.

Then they talk to Arun Ulag, CVP Azure Data, Microsoft, about the importance of Data in the AI landscape.

TLDR:

• 00:40 Main announcements at Microsoft Ignite 2024 by the team
• 19:40 Azure Data meets AI with Arun Ulag

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In today’s rapidly evolving tech landscape, understanding your organisations legal position on AI is critical. As it continues to advance, so do the complexities around data protection, intellectual property, and ethical use and regulation is struggling to keep up.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Jagvinder Singh Kang, Partner at International & UK Head of IT Law at Mills& Reeve about how businesses and individuals are navigating leveraging AI鈥檚 potential while staying within legal and ethical boundaries, including the current state of GenAI regulation, the relevance of the EU AI Act and the evolving legal landscape.

TLDR:

• 02:25 Should we just give up and embrace the algorithm?
• 07:43 Cloud conversation with Jagvinder
• 41:03 The overwhelming pace of technological change for elders
• 48:17 Great movies and preparing for a major GenAI event!

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As more people are displaced by war, economic instability, and a warming planet, more countries are turning to AI-driven technology to 鈥渕anage鈥� the influx.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Petra Molnar, Harvard Faculty Associate and Author of ‘The Walls Have Eyes’ about how tech is being deployed at borders, how it is impacting communities and how innovation could be used for good.

TLDR:

• 02:01  Confused about whether we learn from disasters
• 06:00 Cloud conversation with Petra Molnar
• 36:05 Research about the state of AI narratives and the perceived “story crisis”
• 41:35 Walking with a real dog in the park!

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[AAA] In ‘Access All Areas’ shows we go behind the scenes with the crew and their friends as they try to unpick some issue or other.  It might get a bit messy.

This week, sometimes 鈥榖ig rocks鈥� exist in organizations and transformations that prevent or slow down getting to successful outcomes.  Dave, Esmee and Rob are joined by, Georgia Smith, Cloud Transformation Leader, to talk about the 鈥榖ig rocks鈥� visible in Cloud transformations, focusing on culture and governance, including the glorious messiness of cultural change, the ineffectiveness of bottom up change management, how to create effective adaptive governance during transformation and the importance of spa days.

Please get in touch with us, via LinkedIn or cloudrealities@capgemini.com, if you have questions or challenges for us, we’d love to hear from you!

TLDR:

•  00:38 Its a new show variant!
•  01:12 Cloud conversation
•  49:02 What are the crew excited about doing next?

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As AI scales and layered agents become more integrated, businesses face questions about just how automated they can become and what this means for efficiency, cost, and innovation.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Nicole Onuta, AI business transformation expert about the growing impact of generative AI on the software development lifecycle (SDLC), diving into both the opportunities and challenges that arise, how AI scales in an organisation and how hyper-automation is fast becoming a practical reality.

TLDR:

• 04:40 Confused about whether frictionless CX can be too frictionless
• 07:54 Cloud conversation with Nicole Onuta
• 34:57 The Eliza bot in 1966
• 43:08 AI execution!

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Resources:

• Turbocharging Software with Gen AI

Today drones are a common sight from use in industrial and military settings to incredible swarming light shows.  They are often used for aerial data capture at scale, providing intelligence over wide and inhospitable areas.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Dario Valenza, founder of Carbonix, about the state of the art of drones, their role in intelligent industry platforms, what’s holding back flying cars and the relationship between Americas Cup Yachts and drones.

TLDR:

• 01:52 Confused about AI on the iPhone
• 07:32 Cloud conversation with Dario Valenza
• 33:56 Failure is a Feature of Learning
• 44:10 Growth of Carbonix

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Ensuring your organization can quickly adapt to changing pressures is critical in today’s fast-moving market environments. However, many organizations are still structured with traditional hierarchies, which enable stable operations but can make change difficult.

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Tony McManus, Global Head of Enterprise Data and Index at Bloomberg, about tracking and responding to mega-trends, Bloomberg’s collaborative structure, supporting customers on their cloud journeys and how this helped prioritize Bloomberg’s Cloud strategy.

TLDR:

• 01:15 Confused about lost data and knowledge
• 05:05 Cloud conversation with Tony McManus, Bloomberg
• 38:10 Michael Porter’s five forces model
• 46:40 Going to Taipei!

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Enterprise Resource Planning software runs at the heart of the world’s largest organizations, helping to plan and operate companies, and underpinning the wave of globalization over the past 20 years. However, it too is about to evolve as the impact of GenAI deepens.

This week, Dave, and Rob talk to Miranda Nash, GVP Applications Development & Strategy, Fusion AI at Oracle, about focusing on not just PoC, but how you scale AI, the evolution of ERP software, the use of Agents to drive higher levels of automation and this years Oracle CloudWorld.  We also pick through the evolving jargon of AI in an attempt to demystify it.

TLDR:

• 01:15 Confused about reaching the zenith of non-functional requirements (and the word Zentih)
• 06:00 Cloud conversation with Miranda Nash
• 35:50 Demystifying AI
• 45:00 Dancing to Cuban music!

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Off to a slower start than many sectors with Cloud transformation, due to regulation lag, Financial Services is now picking up pace.  With challenger banks moving into the sector and regulations have caught up, so its now not just about moving to Cloud, its about Cloud enabled business growth.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Pranati Dave, Practice Director @ Everest Group,

about the state of Cloud in FS, highlights from recent Everest research into Enterprise Maturity Models for Microsoft Business Applications and how these models can help accelerate digital change in your organization.

TLDR:

• 00:00 Chase glitch confusion
• 06:25 Cloud conversation with Pranati Dave
• 36:20 4 dimensions of Maturity
• 41:20  Family time!

Resources:

• Enterprise Maturity Model for Microsoft Business Applications in Financial Services

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We are back!  In this opening episode we meet our new host and chat about the exciting things coming in Season 4.

To provide a way in for new listeners, we also take a step back and discuss what we actually mean by ‘practical and exciting alternate realities that can be unleashed through Cloud-driven Transformation’, what reflections we have on this from looking at it

over the last three seasons and how this sets up Season 4.

Finally, we are very keen this season to establish a feedback loop with listeners, so will be doing shows exploring listener questions and challenges – something we are really looking forward to. 

Please get in touch with us, via LinkedIn or cloudrealities@capgemini.com, if you have questions or challenges for us, we’d love to hear from you!

TLDR:

• 00:45 Meeting Esmee!
• 10:50  What else is new in Season 4?
• 14:12  Exploring Cloud-driven transformation
• 27:19  Psychological safety in the workplace
• 33:30 What we’re excited about doing next in Season 4

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